After Shooting: Pasadena Families Grill Local Leaders, Police

Police and politicians in Anne Arundel County took heat from residents Tuesday night, in the wake of a double shooting, where two teens were charged—including one from Glen Burnie.

UPDATE (Nov. 15)—For more than an hour Tuesday night, three members of the Anne Arundel Police Department, along with elected officials, fielded questions and tough criticism from members of the Green Haven community in Pasadena who said criminal activity has been brewing for several years.

Most recently, a double shooting on Oct. 13 left a local man, Matthew Morrow, dead just a few blocks from George Fox Middle School, where the meeting was held.

The day after the incident, police released information that Ronald Lee McLeod of Columbia and Daniel Alex Savage of Glen Burnie—both 18—were both charged with first- and second-degree murder; attempted first- and second-degree murder; first-degree assault and second-degree assault. Police said McLeod also faces multiple handgun-related charges and reckless endangerment.

However, charges against Savage were dropped.

Police said they could not discuss details of the ongoing investigation, but insisted that more information from the community would only be better for the welfare of residents. The officers said they can only respond to incidents they are called to or come across themselves, so phone calls will lead to more patrols.

"Call if you see a particular individual doing something wrong," said Sgt. Tom Newman, of the eastern district for Anne Arundel County police. "The more you get them into the court system, eventually the courts are going to do something about it."

Darren Costa, the second victim of the shooting, sat in the rear of the meeting with a bandage over the gunshot wound on his right arm.

"You guys are saying to call 9-1-1 for help from the police, but I just want to know why it took 25 to 30 minutes for an ambulance to get there and actually get my friend (Morrow) out of the street," Costa said. "They walked over to him while he was still there and they just took their time while my friend was dying."

Chief Michael Cox, a spokesperson for the Anne Arundel County Fire Department, said response units received a call at 1:28 a.m. on the night of the shooting and were on the scene eight minutes later. Units were transporting the victims away from the scene 12 minutes after arriving, according to Cox.

"If you would have done your job, they wouldn't have been out in the street," said one woman.

The officers said they can only arrest and charge suspects that they catch, and that the sentencing of the perpetrators can only be carried out by the courts.

Morrow's family showed up hoping to get some answers as to what will be done about the criminal activity.

Ed Morrow, Matthew's father, was not satisfied with the police insisting that the court system is causing criminals to stay on the streets.

"It seems like you guys feel like you're doing your job, and that's fine," Ed told police. "But now what do we do? Because what you're doing is not working."

Neighbors of the Morrow family repeatedly questioned the police department's ability to adequately track the crimes and perpetrators in order to bring them to justice.

One man narrowed the trouble spots to two particular residences on Outing Avenue and 14th Street, asking, "How do we stop the partying?"

"How do we stop the drug dealing?" asked a woman.

Chatter about the department's competence grew so loud at one point that officer Ian Preece barked at the group to stop speaking over one another.

"We will not stop investigating this case until we get a verdict," said Sgt. Keith Clark, of the county's homicide unit.

Police insisted that the department is doing the best they can for the area with the number of  resources and intelligence they have. The officers said the first thing residents can do to further protect themselves is to start regularly calling police to report suspicious activity.

"Everyone knows what belongs and what doesn't belong here. You know what a suspicious person looks like," Sgt. Newman said.

Anne Arundel County Executive John Leopold, who spoke toward the end of the meeting, said he, too, wishes there was a greater police presence in Green Haven, but that he wishes the same for all neighborhoods in the county.

"I wish we had the resources to do everything we need to do to help our police officers and increase the number of police officers," Leopold said, citing the Anne Arundel County School Board budget as a reason for limited police funding.

"The school board is squeezing the oxygen out of all of the other departments of county government," Leopold said.

But he also looked at the newly-opened Maryland Live! casino at Arundel Mills in Hanover as an opportunity to pad the department's budget. Leopold said he expects the county will get $15 million of new revenue, which would ultimately increase all department budgets.

State Delegate Nic Kipke (R-Pasadena) told the crowd that he is connected to the community's concerns about crime, thanks to a handful of residents who constantly call him and local authorities, but that more people need to start calling police and state legislators.

"This is unacceptable what's going on in your neighborhood," Kipke said. "But every time I meet with police, they tell me, 'We only hear from these five people.'"

He insisted that police are doing what they're supposed to do, but are being undermined by members of the court system who are letting criminals off the hook and back into the communities.

"We have a court system that has liberal judges who turn these people right on the back, and they're often coddling them," Kipke said. "We have a legislature in Maryland that coddles criminals."

He used the opportunity to suggest residents take the Nov. 6 general election as a chance to vote out the "liberal" circuit court judges, in favor of "conservative" judges, whom he says will be hardline on crime.

"If you want to get these thugs under control—and you don't want it to take eight years—you have to get more involved," Kipke said. "You can't just sit back and blame [the police], who put their lives on the line constantly."

Editor's note: This story was updated to include the response times officially recorded by the Anne Arundel County Fire Department and to reflect information reported on Nov. 15 that charges were dropped against Daniel Alex Savage.

If you have any information about this incident, please contact eastern district detectives at 410-222-6145. Or you may contact Metro Crime Stoppers at 866-7LOCKUP or text “MCS" plus your message to CRIMES (274637). Phone calls are not recorded and callers remain anonymous.

jesse55jp October 24, 2012 at 11:53 AM
So many of you people were acting like animals assaulting our fire dept while we were trying to save this kid. Next time you get shot don't call us and see how it works out for you. Unreal......
misssebastian October 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Liberal judges? oh come on. When will this liberal conspiracy stop. Nic Kipke thanks for letting me know your name. A person is shot, nice making it a voting opp. Stop feeding people a line of crap. I am sure there is a lot more the local police THAT ARE ALREADY HIRED can do. Sounds like the people of this community know this since they were so upset. They live there. I'm certain they are aware of police response and presence in their own neighborhood.That's why they were so upset.
Jane Elm October 24, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Maybe the reason why it took 25 minutes to get the dying man out of the street was because the unruly crowd blocking and grabbing and pushing police and Ems made it next to impossible for them to do their jobs. How are they supposed to work when being yelled at, grabbed, and pushed? How is the ambulance supposed to drive to the hospital with countless people climbing onto and in it? You people are your own worst enemies. Those people on scene that night should be ashamed of themselves acting like a bunch of fools!
jesse55jp October 24, 2012 at 02:09 PM
Thank u Jane.
Christopher Charles Moore I October 24, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Exactly...I wish they'd stop making EVERY issue political
misssebastian October 24, 2012 at 02:55 PM
They are cops. That's what they are trained to deal with. I doubt EVERYONE was doing that.
cj schmidt October 24, 2012 at 10:59 PM
I was there, you people walked to my cousin as he lay dying in the street which might explain why some were unruly and another reason it took so long was bc a cop car was blocking the sreet
TiffanynL October 25, 2012 at 12:32 AM
@ kipke, if you got shot in your wrist and hip I'm pretty sure on your way to trauma you'd be acting the same way and for you to only point out him saying " yo " and " bullets " is Completely ridiculous You can't criticize some one for having " yo " in their vocabulary . And obviously he said bullets because he did get shot by a gun with " bullets " obviously and his friend had just been killed. I'm pretty sure he wasnt bragging he was just scared . And for you to say " you don't just ride around their GHETTO neighborhood" ? You ride around and harasse people who are waking down the street ! Seriously ? how can our neighboorhoods full of people who has lived there for years help the these ghetto people who come here from Brooklyn , Glen Burnie , Baltimore .. Etc. over populate our communitys ? So for you as a police officer judging the neighbor hoods your supposed to protect act like every single person in it is just as bad as the people who over populated it ? Really. Get over your self .
jesse55jp October 25, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Thank u for proving my point.
Shawn B October 25, 2012 at 02:48 AM
My opinion, let's remember who the bad guys were here and try to unite instead of crucifying each other. I cannot begin to fathom the physical and emotional pain that Matt's parents, family and friends must be going through, I pray that they hold each other up and accept any and all love and support that is offered them. But, to rip at each other, I just cannot see that doing any good. As far as our court system not enforcing and backing up the arresting officers putting their lives on the line and trying to get these people off the street, public records would say that this is not the first me those "young men" were in trouble....in trouble and not punished with any severity. So, just thinking maybe we try to hold each other up and fight the enemies out there terrorizing our neighborhoods and lives. Sincere condolences, prayers and awe to Matt's family for being able to try to carry on. Unimaginable.
Chris October 25, 2012 at 03:36 PM
It's sad someone lost there life, but to turn around and blame the police and paramedics is ridiculous! They go out every night protecting our streets, and maybe if these thugs would of been put behind bars sooner with the wrap sheets they both had this would not of happened! The courts do fail us, by giving to many slaps on the wrist! I could not imagine the pain this family is feeling after losing their loved one, but to place blame on AACOPD, and our volunteer fire dept is crazy!
jesse55jp October 25, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Our fire dept consists mostly of paid professional fire fighters and paramedics.
whatydnas October 25, 2012 at 05:21 PM
Jesse55jp... I hope you dont ever have to take one of my family members to any local hospital the way your acting is so uncalled for and not to mention do to hippa violation is so not professional stating what a patient said in the ambulance! Really you should really be let go! Lets all try to remember these are CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS that went thru an unbearable night! That witness there friends being shot and one dying!! My god really!!
jesse55jp October 25, 2012 at 05:51 PM
I don't hope I have to either.
Michael Licavoli October 25, 2012 at 06:03 PM
The fact that so many people took this opportunity to coordinate with local law enforcement about sharing information on problem residents and turned it into a dressing down of the cops and fire department just shows that you shouldn't expect that neighborhood to get better any time soon.
HEATHER SCHMIDT October 25, 2012 at 06:36 PM
This my cousin who passed away that night for ANYONE to make such remarks as JESSE55JP disgust me especially when you( jesse55jp) are claiming to be a " paid professional" I can only hope that there is some truth behind the name you are using bc I will be contacting your superior and let them know of your unprofessional remarks as well as you violating HIPAA laws. As stated before the people at the " party" are kids / young adults majority of which have been friends with Matt for years or was his family members so to watch him lay in the street as the so called paramedics WALK to him I can only imagine the frustration they were feeling ! you guys should have been running if you are all "trained paid professionals" you should be able to deal with any situation at hand! This isn't a experience that we witness on a daily basis in this so called " ghetto neighborhood" so clearly the young adults were in a panic especially as I've stated it was their family laying in the street. COUNT YOUR BLESSING JESSE55JP
jesse55jp October 25, 2012 at 07:31 PM
Never said I was. If you had any training or common sense you'd understand why we do the things the way we do. No one hopes to go on a homicide but we did everything we could and more dealing with an intoxicated angry crowd. WE including the police were hindered in our work because of the nature of the call and the behavior of you and your friends.
whatydnas October 25, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Heather Schmidt... I strongly agree with you and thats why I printed out her statements she posted! Jesse55jp Gets your facts straight in the police report there was never mention that the crowd was unruly and I will find out what ambulance Darren rode in that night. You are truly embarrasing and Im ashamed of yourself, as i am also in the health profession and you have crossed the line in many ways! I cant not wait to hear that you lost your job over this! I will find out who you are.
whatydnas October 25, 2012 at 10:29 PM
I also think its funny how you deleted your comment whast darren said the ambulance but sweetie to late.... I already printed it out! Goodluck!
whatydnas October 25, 2012 at 10:30 PM
H Schmidt October 26, 2012 at 12:13 AM
My point is your comment is heartless and someone in your profession should have alittle more compassion to a situation such as this. We KNOW the cops did everything THEY could, first on the scene was our cousin ( who is an officer) so obviously no complaint there. My problem isn't even with the medics as I wasn't there and don't know for sure of the response time... My problem is your heartless comments a life was lost that night and if you were on the other side and it were your family member I'm sure you would be pissed at the comments as well. I will not waste anymore time responding to a person such a yourself...
Dorothy Kraus Hagins October 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Amen Shawn!
Donna Schmidt Thursby October 27, 2012 at 03:48 AM
@Jesse55jp your remarks are appalling and I will see to it you have no job in the HEALTH FIELD I promise !!! I was on the scene that night trying to get into the ambulance YES IT WAS MY WONDERFUL Nephew inside and I would do it again so how dare you judge me for wanting to get to him and his mom for our natural reaction. You obviously did not grow up in a close loving family and have NO PLACE in this profession and I will personally see you out of it.
Dorothy N Hall November 16, 2012 at 02:03 AM
Well said Shawn ! Thanks . And prayers and thoughts to Matt's family.
John Smith November 17, 2012 at 05:58 PM
At 3:00 in the morning a house in Elizabeths Landing burned to the ground. It took the fire dept. half an hour to get there and the uninspected fire hydrant was dry. Clearly the emergency officials need some improvement. Its their job to lie about the times they got there so they don't get in trouble and thats exactly what they were doing when this kid got shot.


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